I just got back from a very confusing shiur, Torah class, about what we're to do and not do next Shabbat which is immediately before Passover.
Rav Elchanan Bin-Nun is the Chief Rabbi of Shiloh, and there are Jews from every ethnic group here in Shiloh. He had to cover it all.
The topic that interests me the most concerns the "menu." Rav Elchanan doesn't agree with the idea that you can breakup the morning meal by a technicality to make two meals to cover Seudat Shlishit, the third Shabbat meal. The Third Meal is supposed to be later in the day. The bottom line is that we must have it without grains, matzah of any sort or cake or kneidelach. I can serve my potato or vegetable kugel with meat or fish and cheese, avocado, too. It's a good protein; don't forget eggs.
Most poskim (Halachic deciders) hold that Seudah Shli'sheet must be after mincha and the earliest Mincha time is around 13:15 which is after the time when Chametz can no longer be eaten. The pamphlet we have at home from the Chief Rabbinate, however, seems to allow for two options. That is, eating a small meal with bread, blessing Grace, taking a walk, waiting one-half hour and then eating again but finishing by 9:50 or so. This is agreed to by the Magen Avraham, Mishnah Brurah and the Chazon Ish. And the second option is to eat the Seudah Shli'sheet after Mincha with Matzah Ashirah - which we usually don't do but substitute kneidlach with matzah meal. The Me'iri in conjunction with the Zohar points out that for all intents and purposes, there need not be a third meal [with bread] on this Shabbat because it can't be done, just like on a Yom Kippur that falls on Shabbat, that the prohibition on eating takes precedence over the custom of three meals on Shabbat. I didn't hear Rav Elchanan's shi'ur but would suggest that if the "third" meal after Mincha is with meat and/or fish, one could be lenient and be satisfied with that as it is a "heavy" meal. As this is the last time that the Seder will fall on a Motzei Shabbat for the next 13 years, we'll probably, im yirtzeh shem, have to recall all this all over again or maybe someone will come up with a better solution.
ReplyDeleteI'm a big fan of avocado, too! Fish also ranks high up on the list.
ReplyDeleteI wonder...can those Sefardim who eat kitniyot on Pesach eat sushi?
Winkie, I'm glad you're researching it. I'm thinking of cream cheese and lox on bagel, roll or pitta for the last chametz meal and then kugel and fish etc in the afternoon.
ReplyDeletet, as long as all the ingredients can be found kp, why not?
Friday night, erev Shabbat we can have kitniyot. Rice should be fun.
Are you much of a sushi person? I've sampled some kinds that don't even have fish, only fruits and vegetables inside, but I wonder if that's even real sushi?
ReplyDeleteI like it but it doesn't fill me up. I've had some awful sushi here in fancy hotels.
ReplyDeleteRav Re'em HaKohen of Othniel nottes that the minority opinion of the Ra"n is that the three se'udot do not necessarily have to follow the fixed schedule of evening, morning, afternoon. Since the Shulchan Arukh, Para. 291, brings it as a possibility, he favors the opinion that bread is not needed for the third meal but also notes that the Mishna Brurah 444:8 includes the possibility of splitting the second meal into two with a break in-between so that bread is eaten three times but the concept of the Third Meal remains connected to a post-Micha time period.
ReplyDeleteI get a kick out of the fact that even those who don't make any great effort to eat three "proper" meals on an ordinary Shabbat will go to all sorts of extremes on the most difficult of all days.
ReplyDeleteAnd I must admit that I don't have a "proper" Seudat Shlishit normally, so it's not up to me to decide how the morning will go, one meal or split.